you've seen the list? I don't want to. ever. and I can honestly say that's the first thing that went through my head as I read your post. even though I admittedly got a brief laugh out of mocking the sanctimonious Red Sox fans who thought their team was above this mess, that's about as much as I care about hearing about Ortiz or anyone else from the list. mostly I just wish people would stop deluding themselves into thinking that steroids (or if you want to cop out on language, performance enhancing drugs) weren't used by players on their teams. they were everywhere. everyone used them. accept this and move on. I'm over it. then again I also don't care enough about baseball to really give that much of anything about the Mitchell Report, steroids or anything else related to this mess.